City Batman: Tim Burton Vs Christopher Nolan
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BRUCE WAYNE
Unfortunately Keaton is NOT a better Bruce Wayne. It is an undeniable fact that Bale has a greater range with the character and achieves a humanized characterization, while Keaton played our beloved billionaire as a recluse with no sense of culture, with no discernible skills and a strong tendency to do strange behaviors suspect to anyone with at least one neuron function.
Apple on several occasions has said that Keaton's Bruce Wayne is much more subtle in their grief over the death of their parents. However, we can see leaving roses in a public place under the full DAYLIGHT. What's subtle about this? On the contrary, that was a show of emotion, with opening act and little music in the background, for all passers-by observed the behavior inexplicable.
The Bale Wayne shows us what the real effect of the death of a loved one through their performance. Nobody says anything. Everything is in characterization. More importantly, does not share that part of his life with people who are not close to him. We can see it making a conscious effort to show a picture of himself very different from real. Is shown as a riquito which wastes money, womanizer, pretentious, arrogant, uncaring and careless, insolent and sleepy, when in reality we know that is a great statesman, economist, worried about their investments, vision, etc. NO ONE WILL SUSPECT THAT MAN IS BATMAN.
Wayne Keaton With no single reason not to suspect that this man could be a vigilante. No work appears to have a morning and although it is a billionaire, does not seem to care at all financial statements or enjoy your money.
Point: Christopher Nolan BATMAN
Believe me, nobody would dare to fight with Christian Bale's Batman. Proves time and again that anyone can face under any circumstances. One of the highlights for me was when, in The Dark Knight, Batman neutralizes the SWAT team and the Joker's gang bearing in mind that should protect the hostages. And he did not seriously injure anyone. MIER-DA. From the moment that Batman caused the domino effect in which the SWAT team fell one by one, all tied with a rope, said "This is Batman, Conas!".
On the other hand, Keaton's Batman relies too much on their toys, and their movements as a fighter are laughable. For one example: in Batman 89, Batman fights a tan on the roof of the cathedral. A MORENO. And the sauce they gave was legendary. And another thing, soft spots put the suit does not translate into real athletic.
Let's be honest. Keaton's Batman looks great when posing and nothing else, and aesthetically brilliant. Consider: Bale's Batman can break into a skyscraper, disable security guards, kidnap a mob accountant and get out in a span of 90 seconds. Keaton's Batman has a hook to rise (to the Batmobile have one) and is lucky to not shoot him in the face while lying on the floor at the mercy of stupid henchmen (the fight in the alley). But the biggest difference, and this puts the Keaton's Batman far below almost every Batman is that Batman does not kill.
Point: Christopher Nolan
BATMAN'S VOICE
The Bale's Batman voice creates a dividing line between the guard and Bruce Wayne. Is an additional measure to ensure your identity and prevent suspected that voice may belong to Bruce Wayne. Because of this, the voice is very guttural, almost like a roar, while Keaton's voice is a whisper. Everything he says sounds more like a secret that threat. However, credit must be given to what deserves merit. The Keaton's Batman voice need not be threatening, as the suit and aesthetics meet for that purpose perfectly. In addition, it is not ridiculous. You have to give points to the aesthetics in this part.
Point: Tim Burton
The Joker
If we are to judge actions, then Ledger is the clear winner in this debate. He was really ACTING, and that's the big difference. Jack Nicholson is an excellent actor, but in his role as the Joker was no challenge. Not required to itself. Heath Ledger created a unique character and took over the role. Just for that, the winner must be Ledger. We also
characterization. The less you know, the better, and the writers know this at the bottom of the letter. For the Joker should not have a concrete history. Style works best Michael Myers in Halloween. If the villain is not defined motivations, there is no way of knowing what she will do next or why. That makes it a chaotic variable at any stage it appears, becoming a legitimate threat.
My affection for Nicholson's Joker has no limits, but I never felt threatened by him or his plans. Ledger's Joker was funny in his way, but Jack was a comedy to die laughing. I never took it seriously. Jack laughed at his own comments and their dialogue, but never, never saw it as a real villain who should be stopped.
Ledger's The Joker was anything since it appeared on screen. When the pen disappeared into the eye of the follower who tried to arrest him, everyone knew to what was this man. The best part is that there is no personal connection between the characters. I do not know who was the decision, but switching to Joe Chill, the murderer of Bruce's parents, Jack Napier (The Joker), it was a terrible direction and really stupid. This reduced Batman 89 to become a generic revenge movie where the only difference is that the protagonist is transformed into a bat.
Point: Christopher Nolan Characters
Really? "There should be a debate? I add this line to tie up loose ends. Just mention to Alfred and Commissioner Gordon, both of which appear in both Batman Begins / The Dark Knight as Batman / Batman Returns.
The most notable difference between Michael Caine and Michael Goug is in the scripts. In Nolan's Batman, Alfred has a history and personality. In Batman 89, Alfred does nothing. It's just an old man who keeps the house clean. The Caine's Alfred served as a mentor and as a father figure, is concerned about the things that makes Bruce and the impact that their actions could have.
Same with Gordon. In Batman 89 is almost a bonus. In Nolan's Batman is nothing more and nothing less than GARY OLDMAN, not fuck anyone. Here there is nothing to say.
Point: Christopher Nolan
Gotham
Here's a question of aesthetics over practicality.
In Batman 89, everything looks because Tim Burton gothic love that. It also goes hand in hand with a movie that cares more about aesthetics than practicality. This is simply a matter of taste. Nolan's Gotham City has greater prominence and prominence than Burton, but both have their merits. Burton's Gotham City looks reminiscent of the Dick Tracy Warren Beaty, trying to bring to reality comic concepts without going through a transition process. Nolan's Gotham City is a marriage between ancient and modern, where 200 year old buildings are overshadowed by high rise building finishes. No matter the sunlight. Both have several scenes in broad daylight, and both had a cinematographer who knew what he was doing.
Point: Draw Christopher Nolan / Tim Burton
HISTORY
The Nolan Batman have a better script, with a well constructed narrative that speaks volumes without neglecting anything. Nolan's films have the epicenter them tough questions to the characters. Questions they must answer to themselves and others.
The Burton Batman have a simple answer for everything. The criminals and the general public are not intelligent or dangerous (or realistic), so that Keaton never have to worry about the puppet Gordon threaten or imperceptible Vicki Vale. And now that I think about it, I never felt that her life was in danger at any time.
Nolan's Gotham City has real dangers and instability, making the narrative more interesting. Also better captures the essence of the characters, and Burton only cared about making a blockbuster. The mere fact that ordinary people of Gotham had a voice Nolan films Nolan stands above all the Batman. In Nolan's Batman is shown that Batman is more effective than the police by virtue of their abilities and limitations of them. Burton's Batman in the police are simply inept. Please! The Joker kills a man throwing a feather at the neck in broad daylight while the officers are stiff.
Nolan On Batman supporting characters actually abet and support the film, unlike Burton's Batman, in which almost secondary characters stand in front of the camera in silence to listen to Jack Nicholson cracking jokes.
The Nolan Batman characterization give us. The Burton Batman cartoons give us as much. Batman
89 is fun, and withstand the test of time well. But it is better than Nolan's Batman when compared. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or trying to be leftist and avant-garde when not even a right-wing movement. Apple, please stop this rebellion. At best, it makes you a liar. At the very least, makes you a pretentious and annoying person. Legitimate
Winner: The Nolan Batman
FINAL THOUGHTS ON BATMAN 89
Devils. In one scene we see Michael Keaton after having sex with Vicki, hanging upside down like bats, doing push-ups. Can not be more obvious? I think people were very surprised with the film structure and Gotham City to realize that the people who live there are legally retarded.
And where were the police? The first time I saw the scene where the Joker kills with pen Vini opposite City Hall, I had not even realized they had police on the scene. Just assumed it had vanished when Jack fell into the bucket of toxic waste and magically reappear at the end of the film, when Batman and the Joker did Vicki his little dance in the tower.
And speaking of Jack ... how is it that someone falls into a pile of toxic waste in and out of there with an albino and the Gothic? Human waste had to be converted or die of poisoning.
And then there are the stupid moments. Alfred allowing Vicki enters the Batcave and, without rhyme or reason. The Joker knocking at Batiplano with one shot when the plane failed EACH! ONE! DE! LOS! SHOTS! directed to the Joker. Damn, the guy was with open arms. Could not take him a little? A damn little?
And that's saying Vicki Keaton was special? The guy once slept with her, and I doubt she was a virgin. How special would it be?
And finally, we have the convenience factor. Obvious from the moment that the character of the Joker is not one who kills the parents of Batman in the comics. Is not it a little convenient that the guy who killed Batman's parents became the Joker because the son of parents killed? If one of these events occurred, one (Jack kills the parents of Batman, the Joker becomes due to an incident that is not related to Batman) that would be one thing ... But the two? That is laziness at the time of writing the script.
The Burton Batman have the nostalgia factor, but the reality is that these films are the dream of a stage designer without a coherent story.
The Nolan's Batman is not only better than Burton's Batman, are better than many films from Burton.